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February 6, 2021 at 6:04 pm #2278
Rosemary N
ParticipantThe only antifungals I am on are berberine & Oregano. I do not know when i’ll be adding more. The focus is to reverse the sibo. I know sibo is from candida. What would be another great antifungal to slowly add? How many antifungals do u normally add to most of ur clients protocal? Pau de darco tea would help sibo?. I always get heaches when I take oregano and berberine. I take them separate. Why is that?
February 7, 2021 at 4:10 am #2296Rosemary N
Participantadding more question to the above^ when you say taking bile away from oregano and all supplements as well? how far apart? for example i take my unda and wait 15-20 mins then I take bile and wait? … then when I eat I take oregano?
I still bloat but not as bad like before. I am getting better. I know this is a progress and it can take up to months or a year. I can’t wait to hear from you! Thank u
Vegan enzyme are more for greens or like eating qunioa? vs bile is more for heavy fat peotien meals such as keto? If I try 1 bile would i still get the benefit? I took 2 and felt a little weird but wow it sure worked! 😀
Taking astragulas and berberine same day or at the same time is fine? I know those are Th1 supporters!
February 8, 2021 at 1:44 pm #2306Marla Pietruszko
KeymasterI dont use oregano personally for clients. I use olive leaf or black walnut or something else depending on the type of bacteria they have. pau darco tea is good but it isnt too strong. headaches could be from die off or could be from something else.
Yes do bile 10 mins before food/supps. You can start with a small dose and increase. Yes astragalus and berberine are fine but remember I am not your practitioner so the suggestions i give are just in general and if you ever have concerns, please check with your practitioner.
February 8, 2021 at 5:18 pm #2308Rosemary N
Participantwhy do you not give clients Oregano? Even if they have sibo? instead you like to use black walnut or olive leaf for your clients?I do find Oregano strong for me. One day I take it and the next day I take a break. Black walnut is a yes for people with sibo?
Yes, Â I always ask before I take anyone else advice, but so far all the advice you have giving me is sure helping.(:
So there are different types of sibo? or jusr different types of bacteria? Olive leaf seems to be okay with me (i got apreoved to take this from my NP). Maybe I do need something more. I’ll ask if I can try black walnut. Along with the HMF probiotic to add since for most people you have seen do well with HMF 500?
Since working on sibo the tinnitus is getting less. Ive notice a change big time.
how can I know what bacteria I got?
thank you Marla!!!
February 9, 2021 at 2:44 pm #2310Marla Pietruszko
Keymasterive explained in other thread on this platform why i dont like oregano. it is very strong for the intestinalis lining and doesnt kill off enough in my opinion.
Yes different types of bacteria, parasites, etc. Dont do olive with the black walnut as that is overkill just do 1 antifungals at a time (you cna add berberine but that would be it). Yes I do HMF intensive 500 but only if my clients are doing TVNS with actetyl choline. Your practitioner should determine roughly the type of pathogens you have based on her assessments and your symptoms.
February 9, 2021 at 4:15 pm #2311Rosemary N
ParticipantI have seen one video you mention you find it strong. So berberjne is safe to take along with only ONE black walnut or olive leaf (that would be it) . Yesterday, I did berberine and olive leaf (my no also suggest olive leaf to me as well). What is the the top berberine supplement you suggest to MOST clients? Is it the one from Genestra? And for Black walnut what supplement you suggest? I see there is two kinds. Which is the best?
how can I know what bacteria I have?
I will be ordering TVNS. along with probiotics. I do great great with Bacillus Coagulans I got the one from Thorne. Any other supplement of Bacillus Coagulans you know that has it alone?
and what is the best actetyl choline?
ty!
February 11, 2021 at 4:17 am #2318Rosemary N
Participantadding more to my questions^^^^ I just realized that my liver detox from pure encap has actetyl choline, is that to little? I also believe this will help the tinnitus! (: which is connected to my gut.
thank you marla
February 11, 2021 at 2:38 pm #2320Marla Pietruszko
KeymasterYes i like Genestra berberis and the black walnut combination #1. Your nutritionist should have a rough idea if you have more fungal overgrowth, parasitic, viral etc by doing intake. I perosnally dont take SBO probiotics too much so i only use Dr Axe ones when I do. Metagenics has an acetyl choline i believe. you can start with the pure encaps liver support and if you feel that after a couple weeks of TVNs that not much is happening with your SIBO, then you would want to add more acetyl choline.
February 12, 2021 at 5:36 am #2328Rosemary N
Participantokay, I do not take Dr Axe SBO. I did not like them. To confirm, HMF Intensive 500 alongside with tvns this will help sibo and so much more. Do you put Most clients on hmf 500 the first time when you are treating their sibo? And the peobiotics should be taken with food im I right?
Even though people should avoid probiotics when having sibo it can still benefit them as long as they got the right strains (hmf 500) i’m so looking forward! your advice is great!
thank u!
February 12, 2021 at 2:08 pm #2332Marla Pietruszko
KeymasterI usually do antifungals (clearing) and antibacterials first then ill put in the probiotics and increase to the 500 slowly (within a few weeks) All the while doing TVNS. yes take with food (instructions are on the box).
I cant guarantee your reaction the probiotics as everyone is different but as long as you’re having DOWNWARD motion of the intestine, the probiotics will make it to the large intestine.
February 12, 2021 at 4:22 pm #2335Rosemary N
Participantohhh okay, I think i’ll wait to add the probiotics later. How many antifungals do you give to each client? Do you give them like starting with two for example berberine & olive leaf, then add more ?
As for now im on berberine and olive leaf. when i add black walnut that can be taken for 2 weeks in and off?
February 15, 2021 at 3:42 am #2368Rosemary N
Participant^ adding more to the questions.
I have been feeling weird on my left knee like if i switched a nerve or bone? I feel something like rubbing. It does not hurt at all. Can some women get this before their period?
What do you advice? I have been feeling this for a few days. I am taking Pure Encap magnesium glycinate. Do find this clean to take and maybe would help? If i try having a half of curcumin maybe that to will help? The liver from Pure Encap as, but it is so little.
February 15, 2021 at 4:57 pm #2378Rosemary N
ParticipantAdding more^^^ like always… 😀 Is Microcrystalliane cellulase safe on supplement?
February 17, 2021 at 1:49 pm #2407Marla Pietruszko
Keymasterive never heard of women having this issue before a period. must be something else.
magnesium can be great and curcumin but it depends if it is a bone pain or nerve pain. that cal mag looks ok. yes that cellulose is ok.
February 18, 2021 at 12:18 am #2409Rosemary N
ParticipantThank you Marla! (:
I know find it to have pain in my knee and I am on my period now. I have a little bit of back pain as well. I may take the cal mag to help. Â Just for this time being. I find a little bit of curcumin helps me to with potassium.
I also apply pain away to it.
Since I find pain what do you suggest is the above I mention is okay?
I ordered the berberine from Genestra in Amazon and I love it! Although, One pill broke so the powder was all over inside the bottle, but it seems to be okay? I find this more easier on my gut then the throne. Even though I ordered it on amazon lol. Â The throne has a nasty flavor vs the the from Genestra.
Do you find it okay to take fish oil while having sibo?
I ordered the Betacine HCL from Genestra, you say this must be taken right before a meal? For example: 1st thing in the morning lemon water, liquid chlorophyll, lets say after the 20 mins I take bile wait again, then hcl?
I do take bile everyday and it has changed my gut and the way I eat all for better! I take one then just before I eat I take 2 vegan enzymes. Is that okay to? To add extra enzymes?
What is the BEST calcium you know of? I think the pain I feel is from the lack of calcium. I know calcium can be hard on the kidneys, but if I take a little it will not hurt?
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