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    Madeleine
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    Hi Marla,

    I recently came across an article describing a study showing 6 months of treatment with a product by Synergy Pharmaceuticals not only resulting in fewer or no herpes outbreaks but converting 80% of recipients to HSV IgG negative, claiming a ‘cure’ to HSV for 4 out of 5 recipients. I have not been able to locate the publication of the clinical trial. The combination medication is astragalus, L-lysine, rhodiola, Tribulus and a ‘unique amino acid formula’. Synergy Pharmaceuticals website has an alert on their site that they are no longer able to get the ingredients needed to make their product. I’ve messaged them to see if I could get more information on the product, particularly the amino acid combination, but have not heard anything back. I also found an FDA cease to sell order in the United States, as the product had not been approved by the FDA (as if any non pharmaceuticals of natural origin are).

    Thought I would check with you and see if you’ve seen a clinical trial or publication on this topic. I know that recurrent HSV either 1 or 2 has been linked to development of Alzheimer’s in those with APO E4, think it’s imperative to address with more than just suppressive therapy (which I’ve certainly found L lysine works quite well to suppress if continued).

    https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/recent-discovery-in-the-cure-for-herpes-is-overshadowed-by-the-covid-19-quest-for-a-vaccinelack-of-coverage-has-left-millions-infected-with-herpes-in-the-dark-/

    Thank you,

    #2081
    Marla Pietruszko
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    Hello, this is very interesting indeed and I have several notes to make in regards to this.

    Firstly, I use homeopathy to “cure” (go into remission/dormant) HSV – there are some very effective products:
    Bio 88 – Reckeweg
    HPZ Tox – Physica Energetics
    R68 – Reckeweg
    Baikalin Skullcap

    Platanus orientalis

    However these need to be done alongside pother protocols. Also MUST support binding/detox with Zeolite 1/2 tsp bid empty stomach and immune protocols.

    In regards to the article, I believe “cure” is probably why they took down their info…most big viruses are in remission due to proper immune and detoxification balances but cured is unlikely, IMO. Baicalin with Lauricidin and CBD have worked miracles for most I know with herpes viruses, along with homeopathy as mentioned above. DesBio has wonderful herpes series remedies.

    I would love for this to be real but I have doubts. The company is shut down. The reason they give (raw ingredients unavailable) is not likely to be true, given that the ingredients they describe are all readily available. Astragalus and lysine certainly have a useful role in anti-viral mechanisms.

    What I find especially unlikely is that they describe antibody levels falling with enough reliability that they can show it in data. The problem with this is that people develop long lived plasma cells that keep making ab’s to a target even when the target is no longer there. That suggests that even if their approach was effective, using ab’s to judge the effect is unlikely to be a useful approach. This same issue of long lived plasma cells is why you can’t rely upon ab levels to fall, even when the patient is transformed by the antiviral work, and even when you use anti-viral drugs, etc., as part of the work. This is also why, when the patient’s labs show elevations of several viral ab levels, you don’t know which one to go after with certainty. I go after the highest one, using a Deseret Biologicals series therapy. First, I support the patient’s T cell polarization balance, then I reduce their inflammation, then go after the viral burden. In that step, I look for a herx style response to the Des Bio remedy. If I don’t see it anywhere in the 2 month cycle of the series therapy, I switch to a different target. The target that gives me the herx style response (usually a day of flu sx between 3rd and 4th vial on the ascending side of the protocol, but could be anywhere in the two months) is the one I continue to pursue, with a series of two month cycles, with a week or two rest in between, until there’s no herx style response.

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